Deceit of Atheism

Lecture by sheikh Abdur Raheem Green

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Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wa barakatuh

We begin by praising Allah, we praise Him, we seek His help, and we ask for His forgiveness, and we take refuge, with Allah from the evil of ourselves, and from the evil consequence of our evil actions.

Whomsoever Allah guides, no one can misguide, but whomsoever Allah leaves to go astray, no one can guide. And I testify that Allah alone is worthy of worship and that Muhammad, (Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam ﷺ) peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, is His servant and His messenger.

Why would somebody be an atheist? Why would somebody choose a belief system that declares there is no creator of this universe? And this is the first point that I want to make to all of you, that atheism is a truth claim.

Atheism is a truth claim, in other words, atheists are taking a position about something.

An agnostic is someone who says, I don't know whether there's a God or not, an agnostic is someone who says, maybe there's a God, maybe there's not a God, I don't know, the evidence is not convincing to me either way.

But an atheist is different, an atheist declares that God does not exist, the atheist declares that he or she knows that's the implication, they know that God does not exist.

What I want to examine is what is the basis of this knowledge? What is the basis of this claim? When an atheist is claiming that God does not exist or they know that God exists or they are convinced that God does not exist, what leads them, what makes them adopt this claim, what makes them take this position?

Now, my good friend and colleague, Hamza Tzortzis, we call him the Muslim Aristotle. We call him that, Masha Allah, not just because he's Greek originally, he's Greek and he's a convert to Islam, but also he is very knowledgeable in the field of philosophy, and he has done many debates with atheists, leading atheists in the world, including, for example, Ed Buckner, who is the head of the humanist and atheist society in the United States of America, Dan Barker, who is a former Christian evangelical, who's turned his evangelism now to atheism, and many others that Hamza has debated, both publicly and you can see these debates. If you want to go to our website, our https://iera.org website, you can follow the links to those debates and watch them if this is a topic that interests you. What Hamza concluded, and it's similar to what I have concluded after many, many years of preaching Islam (giving Da'waa), that most people who are atheists are not atheists because their belief is rational. No.

All you have to do, my dear brothers and sisters, is watch some of Hamza's debates with these leading atheists in the world, and believe me, you will be disappointed, you will be very disappointed, not with Hamza, Alhamdulillah, but you'll be disappointed because atheists have somehow managed to convince many people that atheism is a type of rational choice, It's the default position of the scientist and the academic and the intellectual.

So, a lot of people today imagine that most scientists are atheists, and this alone, just this makes people sit up and take the claim of atheism seriously, even myself in my many years as a Muslim, my mashallah, probably now 25 years, Alhamdulillah, as a Muslim, I've been a Muslim now longer than I was a non-Muslim. I have thought about this subject a lot. How can we prove the existence of Allah, examining the arguments of the atheists? but as the title of today's talk suggests, I have concluded there is a type of deceit going on, that their claim to be rational and intellectual is by and large of false claim.

I would conclude, and Hamza has concluded, that most atheists are atheists because of emotional reasons, not because of rational reasons.

To most obvious reasons for a person to be an atheist, and there are others, there are other reasons, but the two most apparent reasons for a person to be an atheist is number one, the person feels that God has let them down. And this is what both me and my colleague Hamza through experience we have found, that a lot of people, and this is often people who are formerly religious, become atheists because they feel that God has let them down. I used to pray, they would say, I used to be religious, I used to believe in God, but then such and such thing happened to be in my life, such and such difficulty came to me in my life, how could God do that to me? how could God sit there and let me face this difficulty? He should have rescued me, He should have saved me, He should have taken me away from this.

In other words, they experienced some difficulty in their life, and they feel that perhaps they feel they are so special that God should have looked after them. And this itself, of course, comes from a wrong concept of God and a wrong concept of our relationship with God.

As we Muslims know, life is a test. As Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala mentioned in the Noble Qur'an

الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْمَوْتَ وَالْحَيَاةَ لِيَبْلُوَكُمْ أَيُّكُمْ أَحْسَنُ عَمَلًا ۚ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْغَفُورُ) سورة الملك: 2)

He (Allah) who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed – and He (Allah) is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving (Surah Al-Mulk verse 2)

In the Noble Quran, Allah the Creator is telling us that I have created life and I have created death, except to test, except to see which of you is best in conduct, and He is the Mighty (Al-Aziz), and He is the forgiving (Al-Ghafour).

So life is a test, the nature of the test is that there will be hardship and there will be ease, there will be difficulties, there will be hardships, there will be illnesses, there will be sicknesses.

Indeed in the Qur'an, Allah is telling us, do you think that I would leave you saying you believe without testing you as we tested those who came before you?

So we will be tested, and the fact that we claim to be believers in God does not mean we will stop being tested, No, in fact, we know from the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ that Allah tests the ones He loves, and the ones He loves the most, He tests them the most, because it is through this process of being tested that we as human beings become refined. That is how we learn to improve, that is how we become better, that is how our character and our personality and our disposition, if we are patients, if we see the test through then we become better human beings.

It is like the process of purifying the awe of the metal in order to get the pure metal, you have to purify the awe, you have to extract the pure metal from the dirt and from the awe that surrounds it and through this process the purification takes place.

So a lot of atheists have this problem that if there is a God how come He let this happen to me?

But this is not rational, it's not rational, this is emotional, it's emotional, if you think about it, and what I will do is go through the rational arguments of God's existence and we will see that there are very very strong rational arguments, very good reasons to believe that this universe has a creator and then we will examine en-shaha Allah some of the arguments of the atheists and we will also find out that their arguments are not strong arguments at all, but I gave one reason.

So the first reason why out of the two major reasons that a person becomes an atheist and notice I say becomes an atheist because the first topic I want to discuss a very interesting topic is that believing in God is actually natural and instinctive for human beings.

So becoming an atheist is a decision that a person takes, human beings are naturally born believing in the creator, it's our environment and circumstances that take us away from that, atheism is an acquired position, it's not a natural one, it's unnatural.

The second reason, why people become atheists is because they simply don't like the idea of having to live by rules, other than the rules they make for themselves, they don't like the idea that they are going to be held accountable, they don't like the idea that there are some things a human being should do and some things a human being should not do and that the only being that has the right and the knowledge to tell human beings that is the creator.

In other words what attracts the atheist is what they imagine to be freedom, I say they imagine it to be freedom and with this there are many other reasons as well.

There are some historical reasons especially for scientists, the conflict between the Roman Catholic Church and science has for many scientists marred the position of religion vis-à-vis science and you particularly think of the way that Galileo was treated and for many scientists this has meant that the church which for them the Catholic Church represents religion is against science and that the church has not given scientists the freedom to explore and to develop different theories.

And I think by the way brothers and sisters as Muslims that should be as a side point a cautionary tale for us because of course in our civilization we have not had that conflict between science and religion in our civilization in fact we find that science was promoted science was encouraged indeed according to some western scholars and intellectuals the scientific process itself what we call the scientific methodology was something the Muslims invented and the Muslims introduced, and people in the west learned that process from the Muslims.

so I think it's important that we as Muslims are very cautious about creating or exaggerating a conflict between religion and science, but of course if the scientific community is going to decide to take atheism as its position of choice it's going to become very hard to avoid such a conflict, but I think the reality is that first of all the claim that most scientists are atheists is not true, it is simply not true, in fact if you look at some of the greatest minds in science like Albert Einstein it is very clear from reading Albert Einstein that he believed in the existence of a creator, Newton of course who is famous in many ways he's one of the giants of science, also believed in the existence of a creator and interestingly enough for many years of Darwin's life he also believed that there was a God it's only towards the end that it seemed that he expressed doubts about that so this claim that the scientific community is an atheist community is not really a true claim at all, now my dear brothers and sisters what I want to do is I want to go through some of the arguments that are put forward by people who believe that the creator exists.

And I want to introduce a set of arguments for a direction of discussion that is quite new, and the reason I want to introduce this is that there has been a very major piece of research done recently in Oxford by the Society for Mind and Anthropology or Anthropology in Mind who did a 1.9 million pounds they spent on this research as far as I remember there were over 60 academics involved in this research from all over the world, so this was a major piece of scientific research in the realm of human psychology and anthropology.

After many years they concluded that the belief in gods the religious belief and the belief in afterlife, is not something that is taught by our parents it is something instinctive and natural in the human being, that in fact the very human thought process itself is shaped by religious values, this is very significant, because of course this agrees with exactly what Islam has been saying that every human being is born upon the "fitra" in other words every human being as the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said is naturally inclined to worship God alone, and as the Prophet ﷺ said it is only our parents that make us diverge away from that natural inclination to single out God for worship and make us followers of different religions or no religion at all.

So this is the nature of the human being and it's interesting that this very extensive piece of research has confirmed that, now this is something in our instincts and we all have instincts, animals by the way operate on instinct what makes the human being different from the animal is that the human being has reason we have the ability to reason, whereas animals they rely upon instincts, and we have also what we call reflex actions.

So for example if I pick up something that is hot, but something that is very hot I don't have to think there's no process in my brain saying this is very hot I must drop it, no you do it instinctively, you drop it instinctively, this is a reflex action this is something that is not rational this is just something that is part of our intrinsic makeup in order to keep on holding something hot you have to train yourself you have to learn to bypass your normal instinctive which a human being can do, we can learn to bypass those reflex actions and force ourselves to hold a hot coal this is unique to human beings consciousness that ability to use our mind to override our instinctive reactions however this instinct is there and the belief in God is instinctive.

What is the proof of this? it's very interesting that one of the what we could call the high priests of atheism Richard Dawkins was recently on a TV show and he was being interviewed and that he was saying in this interview you know most Christians they don't know anything about their Bible they just don't know about their book, so the interviewer said okay that's interesting

you believe Mr. Dawkins you're a big fan of Darwin aren't you? of course this Darwin is very important could you tell me the full title of his book the origin of the species? and Richard Dawkins said "oh God", he said "oh God" so he found this atheist or this renowned atheist is being put in a difficult situation he doesn't know the answer and he ends up going "oh God" like "oh God" help me! What am I going to say and this is a guy who says he doesn't believe in God, and actually this is instinctive this is instinctive Allah gives the example in the Quran of those people who go on a boat, and they go on the boat expecting to do trade and expecting to buy and sell they go on to this boat and when they go out to see there is a great storm, and Allah describes in the Quran how the waves are coming over them like the roof of a tent, can you imagine huge waves crashing down on top of you now for a bit, the human being will think okay the boat is going to save me, the boat is well built the boat will save me or maybe they think that captain will save me but when the boat starts to disintegrate to break a heart and the captain gets washed over shore, what will they do? what will they do?

They start calling upon the creator they start saying oh God help me and when they say oh God, it is not the point the name is not important, whether they say God or Allah or whatever the name, it's the concept that is important, what are they calling to conceptually in their minds they are calling upon the being which they know instinctively have power over everything in the universe, that's the one that they are calling to they know that being exists instinctively that can rescue them and has the power and the ability to save them from their difficulty, this is the point not the name but the point is the concept, and this is important, because this being they are calling upon instinctively is not part of the universe, they're not calling upon something that is part of the universe, nor is this being the universe collected together entirely, no this is a being they know is distinct and separate from the universe who has power over it, this of course is Allah, this of course is the creator, so this instinctive knowledge which is major scientific survey now, has found is an intrinsic part of our thought process as human beings, so this is very important because actually we could almost finish there, we could say to any atheist you know there's a God? you know it it's in your nature, every single one of you knows it and actually this is the reality.

Allah says in the Quran and tells us the meaning of which is that I will show them my signs within themselves on the furthest horizons until they know that this Quran is the truth, so Allah will show the signs, He will show them.

However the beauty of our Religion (Dean) Islam one of the very beautiful things about our Religion (Dean) is Masha Allah it is rational, it is a beautiful rational religion, it makes so much sense, and when we look at our universe and when we look at the world around us, we can see that the universe and the world works according to laws it has within it systems, in fact they are very complex, very intricate systems, there is such an amazing balance and conditions are so precise for life to be able to exist, I don't have time unfortunately to go into these details because my time is running out but what I can suggest you do is you could get hold of this book that we produced it's called "The man in the red underpants", what's that the man in the red underpants? well I suggest you read it in short a lot it's very easy you can download it from the internet all you need to do is go to our one reason one reason.org www.onereason.org which is a website that is run by my organization iERA which is for giving Dawaa to non Muslims, and you can download it there and you'll find some amazing information about the fine tuning of the universe, how the universe is so precisely tuned in order for life to exist if the force of gravity was different by even a minute amount a minute amount for example you know one to one ten ninety five that's the proportion if it was different the force of gravity by that minute amount the universe would not exist, it would not exist as we know it in a way that could support life, and there are so many things like this that we can look at what we see as systems we see the universe we see the world, now isn't it rational isn't the most rational position that if we see something working according to laws working according to systems, that there must be something with power and intelligence that has made those laws, and made those systems, through which and by which everything can run.

If I was working along on the desert here in Abu Dhabi I know this is Dubai but I'm just saying Abu Dhabi because Abu Dhabi has oil right okay, so I was working along right in Abu Dhabi in the desert right and I came across an iPad or something that looked like my pad made of what glass and plastic and bits of metal and I picked it up and I said to myself okay this is a product of billions of years of random events, yeah the sunshine the wind blew, the sand you know the oil bubbles and you know the lightning struck, and after billions and billions of years of the sand moving around we got glass and we got plastic and the iPad was formed, iridiculous!! no one would take you seriously!!

It's not rational it's not rational, it's not any more rational to claim that an organized systemized universe is a product of random events, it's not rational.

Rather the most rational conclusion is that our universe has a creator, and this creator, is powerful wise and intelligent.

Now there are a few contentions that you, find the most popular contentions that atheists bring number one is what they call the problem of evil if there is a God how come there is so much suffering in the world? you heard that one before right? where is this God? children are dying! women are dying, there are earthquakes there is disease where is this God how can he let it happen?

However we soon realize with a bit of thinking that this is not a rational argument, this is an emotional it's based upon emotion, because the reasons for believing that the universe has a creator are clear we live in an organized systemized universe where we see organization where we see systems it's rational to conclude that there is power and will and intelligence behind it.

For the existence of suffering has got nothing to do with whether there is a creator or not, it's a different question actually the question is why does God let these things happen? it doesn't prove or it doesn't say anything about whether God exists or not, but it is a question of why? and the only way we can answer that question why? is when God tells us in fact this very question itself leads the rational mind to conclude that we need revelation, we need God to tell us why is our life the way it is? what is the purpose of our life? what is the reason of our existence? so it's very interesting that the very question of evil and suffering in the world is a question that should lead us to believe not only that there is a God because the issue has got nothing to do with whether God the creator exists, but it's an issue to do with why oh God? why do you let these things happen? the only way we can know is if God has revealed that guidance to us, and that is a very powerful argument for the need for revelation for the need for God to give this guidance to us but anyway en-shaa Allah maybe we can cover some of the rest of the stuff in the question and answer session.

Jazaka Allahu khayran sheikh Abdur Raheem Green So now we have come to the time for the question and answer session as always we have a mic to the left for the brothers and one in the rear for the sisters so if we're ready en-shaa Allah we'll have the first question from the mic on the left hand side.

Question:

Asalamu alaykum

My name is Ayman, and I just wanted to ask many people are born in the west and they're born into atheist families and also many are born in the Muslim families, but why is it that the Muslims who may not even pray, and do any… you know do much…!! but they just merely believe why is it that they go to heaven but the atheists don't even though they're just following what their parents told them? I'm just wondering!?

Sheikh Abdur Raheem Green:

Ayman, where did you get that information from?

Ayman replied: past experiences and…

Sheikh Abdur Raheem Green:

Okay but it's not from the Quran right!?

Ayman replied: no no

Sheikh Abdur Raheem Green:

So the thing is Ayman is that as Muslims, and I think as rational human beings, what we should do is if we want to know what a religion says we need to examine the teachings of the religion, not the behavior or what some people happen to say who claim to follow that religion yeah that's the problem okay, I don't think we can judge Islam by what Muslims say and do any more than we could judge Christianity or Buddhism uh by what Buddhists or Christians claim to say and do it may represent it may not represent it but if we really want to know what the religion teaches then we have to go to the book itself right, and I certainly wouldn't agree with the statement that someone is born into a Muslim family they don't practice their religion at all and they're going to go to paradise whereas someone who is born into an atheist family they're just going to go to hell because God is just this is what we believe we believe that God is just and the creator will judge everybody justly so a person for example who never heard about God's religion they never heard about the Qur'an they never heard the true teachings of prophet Muhammad ﷺ is God going to say to that person on the Day of Judgment why didn't you pray why didn't you fast why didn't you give the "Zakaat" the regulated charity why didn't you make pilgrimage to Mecca no if this person had no knowledge of it then justly God is not going to ask that person about those things because they had no knowledge that would be unfair that would be unjust, okay whereas there may be a Muslim who was surrounded by people reminding this Muslim that they should do this and they should not do that and this is what the religion teaches, every human being still has to make a man that conscious decision even if they are born into a Muslim family, there still has to come a time when they make a conscious rational decision to be a Muslim, however what we would say is that Islam is a natural way, the core belief of the Muslim is natural, so a Muslim doesn't have to think deeply and intellectually about their belief system, because it's very natural it's a normal and a natural belief system, whereas perhaps somebody in the west who's born in an atheist family may have to seriously intellectually think about everything, but then generally people who live in the west in that type of environment have that type of education where they are encouraged to think about things intellectually the point being, Ayman is that at the end of the day God is just he will judge everybody just so the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ goes peace and blessings be upon him, said that on the Day of Judgment there will come groups of people and they will have excuses one of them will say that when the message of Islam came to me I was too old, or another one will say I came at a time when there was no messenger the message was not clear it was confused, and another one will claim perhaps that they are insane, or that they were too young, so these groups of people will come, so God will give them a test on the Day of Judgment on the day of Judgment God will give them a test if they fulfill that test and they obey God then, it shows that in this life if the message had reached them they would ever obey God in his messenger, if they don't then it shows that they wouldn't have, yeah so the point being is that we believe that God will treat everybody just and it's not just by circumstance or luck of birth that you happen to go to paradise so you happen to go to hell not at all we don't believe that.

En-shaa Allah will have the next question from the sister's mic in the rear, go ahead sister.

Assalamu alaykum

My question is just related to what the brother ask we know all that God is just, and no and just will happen to any person, but when I talk to my atheist friends online and in person their questions that I cannot answer is where is the just? when I become a Muslim and everything is easy because I was born in this side of the world, or I was born in this family? I know you just answered that about the people who's born in atheist family and such but the question is what should I tell them exactly if I tell them that God is just, and they will be answered in the Judgment Day, they'd be the answer is I don't believe in God, and I don't believe of the Judgment Day, so my answer is invalid to them or it doesn't give them what they want to know.

Sheikh Abdur Raheem Green:

Well I think first of all sister to me the answer in some ways is quite obvious, because you are talking to those people, therefore you are giving them the opportunity to change, and to accept the truth, how then can they complain about the message not reaching them when you are the messenger bringing the message to them? Right?

And this is the thing I really have to say I hate to generalize about a group of people, there are some atheists who are maybe genuinely confused people, right, but honestly many of them are very arrogant people, when you begin to discuss with them you see it, you will give them very reasonable answers and they come with very unreasonable replies, and these are the people who are claiming that they are reasonable.

I would also recommend highly recommend you give to your atheist friends you're talking to online just ask them to read this book "The man in the red underpants" ask them to read it and see if they can come to a response to what is in, and you should read it yourself en-shaa Allah you will find very very helpful because the beginning of the book is talking exactly about the issues to do with how do we know and how can we be convinced that God exists, the other point I want to point out sister is again the point of "fitra" we believe that every human being has an instinctive knowledge, everybody… atheism is in a quiet position, and this study done by the Oxford Institute for Anthropology and Psychology 1.9 million pounds they spent 60 academics across the world they did this including China including countries that are largely they don't believe in God.

What did they do is when they examine children and they question them and they gave them certain tests in fact what did they find they did have a concept of God and they did have a concept of the afterlife, so even in these atheistic societies children still have this basic natural concept and this is some of the reasons why they concluded that the belief in God and the belief in religion and the belief in afterlife is actually a natural instinctive belief in the human being, right? so you find as I said I think the main reasons why a person chooses to be an atheist, is because something bad happened to them in their life and they think you know how could God let this happen to me? or they just don't want to live their life by some rules! that's it they don't want rules in their life they just want to be able to do whatever they want without feeling that there's some accountability, there may be other reasons and some people are genuinely confused about for example the problem of evil, another thing that often they say is religion has led to so many wars, you see religion has led to so many wars, how can religion be true when religion has led to so many wars and so many problems? anyway the point comes again is this irrational argument? Think about it is this a rational argument no not rational because you could still conclude I'm not saying this is the case I'm not saying this is the case, but rationally you could say well maybe God likes wars, it doesn't prove there's not a God, it doesn't even prove whether a religion is true or not.

What is the basis for them to say because religion causes wars it can't be true? what's the basis it's not a rational basis, it's emotional, it's just an emotional appeal, it's not rational and anyway it's not true, again what they have found psychologists have found that people who have religious beliefs are much happier live longer lives and more beneficial and happy lives than people who have no religion.

This is pretty much a fact so this is what psychologists are telling us that religion generally makes people happy.

Let's take another thing, okay if you're saying religion has caused so many wars how about Pol Pot you know from Cambodia the dictator who is responsible for the death of millions and millions of people?

How about Stalin how many people did Stalin kill and Hitler? and so many other people who had no religion whatsoever these wars were not caused by religion but they are the most bloody and awful wars that have the world has ever seen even most of the wars that you find taking place today are not religious wars there are wars over resources they are wars based upon materialism so this claim that religion has called it's you know what we can say it's an outdated cliché, it's ridiculous to make this type of claim and it's not even a rational claim anyway, but you know some of these people they are confused so it's our job en-shah Allah and I'm very glad this people like talking to these people online and Masha Allah trying to convince them and communicate with them and that's really fantastic I wish there was a lot more people like this sister Jazaq al-Akhir

En-shaa Allah we have time for one more question so we'll turn to the brothers mic on the right hand sides go ahead with your question brother

Allahu Akbar, my question before I can ask me I'm a New Born just yesterday I'm from Uganda I have some I can say my my father right now, I'm so happy that I have joined an NGO I was formerly in a side of Christian. Masha Allah and I am in a Dubai for just I finished two months I'm working with the bar Arminium meanwhile changing it was nothing or about getting convinced but it was out of the brief the brief as I've been seeing you going through in two months I really I compared where I was coming from I saw I was losing my life not losing my life but not showing a that I'm in a right path so today I wanted just to get a very nicely a nice certificate of conversion I had it yesterday but today I want to have it when I am in a eyes of angels over thousands!!

Sheikh Abdur Raheem Green:

I say Masha Allah to the brother alhamdulillah is the best thing you'll ever do with your life it's becoming Muslim alhamdulillah if you want happiness the only way you'll find real happiness, alhamdulillah is by accepting Islam but I want to ask a question is there anybody else in this room here today who would like to make their life a beautiful and happy life and accept the religion of Islam, if anyone else is here is anyone a stand-up wave your hands come forward if there's anyone else who wants to accept Islam, alhamdulillah we have someone come we have a friend of Allah you know what if you're thinking of becoming Muslim there's no better time for doing it than now Masha Allah because believe me you'll get rewarded for boosting everybody's faith and making everybody feel beautiful here this afternoon so is there anyone else anyone else wants to take their Shahada Masha Allah and become Muslim alhamdulillah okay we've got over there you want to say after me inshallah.

Another question

Asalamu alaykum wa alaykum alaykum alaykum my name is Ibrahim okay Ibrahim from Kenya Masha Allah I was a Christian but now I want to convert to Muslim.

Sheikh Abdur Raheem Green:

Masha Allah Ibrahim that's fantastic so I'd like the two of you Ibrahim and my other brother from Uganda.

En-shallah if you just say after me, you repeat after me: "Ashhadu alla ilaha illallah, wa ashhadu anna muhammadarrasulullah"

Masha Allah, I say it in English

Say after me:

I bear witness that there is nothing worthy of worship except Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.

Allahu Akbar, JazakAllah khayr, that's beautiful may Allah bless you most of you, Masha Allah.

Jazaka Allah, that's fantastic Masha Allah, brothers my advice to you, is connect to Allah through the prayer, we have a beautiful thing in our religion every Muslim has to pray five times a day praying five times a day is not difficult, it's a privilege, Masha Allah can you imagine that Allah has asked us the creator of the whole universe to stand in front of him to pray to him and to worship him alone, five times every day at least, so please I hope the brothers here are going to support you en-shah Allah and teach you to pray, and I'm sure Masha Allah you'll find many people to help you here.

Sorry I heard that there's a sister who wants to think Shah Allah come on do I just heard from the brothers there sister Masha Allah are you ready to say the Shahada?

Say after me:

"Ashhadu alla ilaha illallah, wa ashhadu anna muhammadarrasulullah"

Allahu Akbar, Masha Allah, Al-Hamdulillah.

Masha Allah, I say it in English

Say after me:

I bear witness that there is nothing worthy of worship except Allah, and I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.

Jazaka Allahu khayran, sheikh Abdur Raheem Green May Allah reward him and bless him and protect him always, may Allah reward you all for joining us.

Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wa barakatuh

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